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My exposure to these two programs comes from the joint presentation at GeoInt by the DoD and CIA CIO's. In response to a very pointed question as to why these programs will succeed when so many previous integration/collaboration/info sharing initiatives have failed, Al Tarasiuk answered "because we won't have the budgets for each agency to keep doing things their own way". I think I've heard that argument more than once, especially in the 90's as we enjoyed the "peace dividend". Didn't work then, probably won't work now. Not clear how Gen Petraeus' regrettable circumstances could affect the outcome.